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Collective Intelligence


Aug 16, 2019

In this episode of the Collective Intelligence Podcast, recorded during the recent Black Hat conference in Las Vegas, Alexander Klimburg of the The Hague Centre for Strategic Studies discusses how the East—Russia and China specifically—don’t view cyber conflict and cyberwar as a battle for critical infrastructure, as the West might. Instead, regime change is the nightmare scenario in these regions, Klimburg said, adding that Russia is attempting to extend to the internet the Communist tradition of the information sphere being the dominant sphere of decision making. By changing the multistakeholder governance model to a multilateral one, Russia believes it would have more stable control over cyber.